{"id":2578,"date":"2007-06-10T14:17:00","date_gmt":"2007-06-10T22:17:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/?p=2578"},"modified":"2007-06-10T14:17:00","modified_gmt":"2007-06-10T22:17:00","slug":"2578","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/?p=2578","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><font face=\"Verdana\" size=\"2\"><a href=\"http:\/\/nielsenhayden.com\/makinglight\/archives\/009076.html#009076\">Patrick Nielsen Hayden<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When you work for a long time in literary affairs, you get used to the idea that people who write brilliant books sometimes say foolish things. But you never entirely stop wincing.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Specifically, he&#8217;s talking about Ray Bradbury, who would have us now believe that <i>Fahrenheit 451<\/i> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.laweekly.com\/news\/news\/ray-bradbury-fahrenheit-451-misinterpreted\/16524\/\">isn&#8217;t really about censorship<\/a> &#8212; and, more to the point, that we&#8217;ve never <i>had<\/i> censorship in this country. (Even though, as Hayden points out, he&#8217;s said pretty much the exact opposite of this in the past.) I love the man&#8217;s stories dearly, but he seems like such a grumpy old man, and it&#8217;s hard not to wince at some of the foolish things he says.<\/p>\n<p>The same now goes for Eric Idle, who is apparently <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cinematical.com\/2007\/05\/22\/eric-idle-not-happy-about-shrek-3-coconut-joke\/\">upset over the coconut gag in <i>Shrek the Third<\/i><\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;there it is in the first 30 seconds &#8212; you go &#8212; wait a minute, John [Cleese] and I are in this film and you steal our joke? Um, I don&#8217;t know how the others are going to take to this &#8230; I hope they (Dreamworks) cleared it with them &#8212; the first I saw it was in the premiere &#8212; and I was SHOCKED &#8212; my whole family went WHAT! How dare you! So I walked out &#8212; calmed down &#8212; and walked back in &#8212; but I was shocked and I think if you steal peoples jokes, I don&#8217;t think that&#8217;s homage, I think that&#8217;s theft.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;m really hoping Idle is kidding, and that that&#8217;s just not coming across in print. Because the cocount gag, more famously from <i>Monty Python and the Holy Grail<\/i>, was one of only a small handful of things I truly enjoyed about the third <i>Shrek<\/i> movie. It definitely felt like an homage to me &#8212; not least of all because, if you weren&#8217;t familiar with the gag in <i>Grail<\/i>, you probably didn&#8217;t even notice it in <i>Shrek<\/i>.<\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Patrick Nielsen Hayden: When you work for a long time in literary affairs, you get used to the idea that people who write brilliant books sometimes say foolish things. But you never entirely stop wincing. Specifically, he&#8217;s talking about Ray Bradbury, who would have us now believe that Fahrenheit 451 isn&#8217;t really about censorship &#8212; &#8230; <a class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/?p=2578\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[238],"class_list":["post-2578","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2578"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2578"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2578\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2578"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2578"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.unreality.net\/weblog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2578"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}